. >> when you say cave, are you talking about paul ryan who says maybe what we should do is increase the debt ceiling for the short-term? >> no, actually, i think that's a bad approach. because we just lurch from crisis to crisis. the paul ryan budget that the house passed with basically every single republican except for, i think, two, that would require in its own terms an increase in the debt ceiling of $1.5 trillion in two years. the budget they voted for requires the debt ceiling to be raised. and now when the time comes to avoid default, they don't want to do it. but i think what you're seeing is speaker boehner knows this isn't a viable tactic. i think mr. ryan knows it's not a viable tactic. but there's a lot in the republican conference that continue to see this doomsday kind of approach as a viable approach. and i think that cooler heads are starting to prevail on the republican side. and that's a good thing. >> and you are part of this no labels coalition wanting to reach across the aisle. but let me read to you what david brooks wrote. polarization is too deep, special in